The Next Page
Are you curious about the power of international cooperation? And how it affects our future? Tune in to the #NextPagePod, the podcast of the UN Library & Archives Geneva, designed to advance the conversation on multilateralism.
Are you curious about the power of international cooperation? And how it affects our future? Tune in to the #NextPagePod, the podcast of the UN Library & Archives Geneva, designed to advance the conversation on multilateralism.
Episodes

Friday Oct 10, 2025
The Locarno Treaties and the Transformation of International Politics
Friday Oct 10, 2025
Friday Oct 10, 2025
As we commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Locarno Treaties of 1925, this episode explores the treaties' place in the "long 20th century," examining how leaders like Gustav Stresemann, Aristide Briand, and Austen Chamberlain sought a new European order in a transformed Atlantic and global setting after the First World War.
Professor Patrick O. Cohrs explains the Treaties’ significance, strengths, weaknesses, and wider global echoes, and considers what the Locarno spirit can teach today’s leaders about diplomacy, learning, and collective security.Patrick O. Cohrs is Professor of International History at the University of Florence. He specialises in the history of modern international politics. His work focuses on war and peace and the transformation of the transatlantic and global order in the long twentieth century. He is the author of The Unfinished Peace after World War I (Cambridge University Press, 2006). His second book, The New Atlantic Order. The Transformation of International Politics, 1860–1933 (Cambridge University Press, 2022) won the 2023 Prose Award in World History.
Resources:
https://archives.ungeneva.org/
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/
Content
Guest: Professor Patrick O. Cohrs
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Welcome to AI X Multilateralism, a new series of conversations on The Next Page. In this collection, we’re joined by experts who help us unpack the many ideas and issues at the nexus of AI and international cooperation. Our first episode begins with the question: is it ethical to use AI in multilateral deliberations? We’re joined by Eleonore Fournier-Tombs, Head of Anticipatory Action and Innovation at the UNU-CPR, the United Nations University Centre for Policy Research. As a data scientist she’s worked in the private sector and across the UN system, and recently supported the work of the UN's Advisory Body on AI that undertook analysis and made advanced recommendations for the international governance of AI. In this episode, we explore:
- the meaning of deliberations at the global level and why this is critical for multilateralism - how AI is being used today in multilateral deliberations and negotiations - the technical and ethical risks of using AI informally deliberations, including what this means for state sovereignty, authenticity and agency, and - solutions for turning the tide and harnessing AI ethically, fairly and sustainably by all who participate in multilateral fora through an ethics by design approach. Interested to find out more? - Read Eleonore's recommended open source pick, "An Ethical Grey Zone: AI Agents in Political Deliberations": https://carnegiecouncil.org/media/article/ethical-grey-zone-ai-agents-political-deliberation - Find out about the UN High-Level Advisory Body on AI: https://www.un.org/en/ai-advisory-body/about - Learn about the Global Digital Compact, adopted by Member States in 2024 at the Summit of the Future: https://www.un.org/digital-emerging-technologies/global-digital-compact - Read about the two mechanisms established by the UN General Assembly on 26 August 2025 to strengthen international cooperation on AI governance, the United Nations Independent International Scientific Panel on AI and the Global Dialogue on AI Governance: https://www.un.org/global-digital-compact/en/ai
Content
Guest: Eleonore Fournier-Tombs
Host, production and editing: Natalie Alexander Julien
Recorded & produced at the Commons, United Nations Library & Archives Geneva
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Thursday Sep 25, 2025
The Press and Peace: The League of Nations' 1925 Resolution
Thursday Sep 25, 2025
Thursday Sep 25, 2025
On the 100th anniversary of the League of Nations' 1925 Resolution on the Collaboration of the Press in the Organisation of Peace, we talk with Professor Kaarle Nordenstreng to explore how media, moral disarmament, and broadcasting shaped interwar internationalism and later global media debates.
Professor Nordenstreng shares his thoughts on his research on the 1925 Resolution and the developments that led up to the 1936 International Convention on the Use of Broadcasting in the Cause of Peace. He connects these landmarks to the first mass media declaration by UNESCO in 1978. He also recounts highlights from his career from his early involvement in radio to interviewing Carl Jung in 1961, and speaking at the UN in 1982, and reflects on the continuing challenges of journalistic ethics, disarmament, and multilateralism today.
The episode connects past media diplomacy to today’s challenges, urging renewed focus on media ethics, international cooperation, and the power of journalism to shape public opinion for peace.
Resources: Ask a Librarian! Ask an Archivist!
Communicating the League of Nations: Contributions to a Transnational Communication History of the League of Nations in the Inter-War Period (1920–1938). United Nations Historical Series. 2024. https://doi.org/10.18356/9789213589274
Kaarle Nordenstreng’s home page https://sites.tuni.fi/kaarle/
Publications available via the homepage related to the episode:
Nordenstreng, K. and Seppä, T. The League of Nations and the Mass Media: Rediscovery of a Forgotten Story. Paper presented at the XV Conference of the International Association for Mass Communication Research IAMCR, New Delhi, August 1986. (17 pp.)
The New World Information and Communication Order: Testimony of an Actor. In Frank Deppe, Wolfgang Meixner & Günter Pallaver (eds.), Widerworte. Philosophie Politik Kommunikation. Festschrift für Jörg Becker. Innsbruck: Innsbruck University Press, 2011, 227-237.
Revisiting 45 Years of History in Communication Policies (with Juan Somavia). Media Development, Vol. LXVII, 2/2021, 5-10.
Does communication research and education take peace seriously? Panel presentation in IAMCR Conference Plenary “The contribution of academia to peace-building: Critique, creativity and activism” in Lyon, 11 July 2023.Interview with Carl Gustav Jung | Kaarle Nordenstreng's academic home page | Tampere Universities
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/
Content
Guest: Professor Kaarle Nordenstreng
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives GenevaWith texts read by Natalie Alexander and Wouter Schallier.Coordinated by Hermine Diebolt.
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Friday Sep 05, 2025
Francesco Pisano on Knowledge to Lead
Friday Sep 05, 2025
Friday Sep 05, 2025
Francesco Pisano, Director of the UN Library & Archives Geneva, reflects on the transformative power of knowledge, and the role of the Library & Archives in democratizing access to knowledge. He discusses projects like the Total Digital Access to the League of Nations, the balance between humans and machines, and how knowledge-led leadership can strengthen multilateral cooperation.
As he prepares to step down from his 32-year UN career, Francesco Pisano emphasizes optimism, hope, and the responsibility of international civil servants to persist in doing the hard work of building wiser decisions for the future.
Francesco says, "There is work to do. The system needs to get down to work, hard work."
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
Archives platform: https://archives.ungeneva.org/lontad
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/O44zlI7mGwg
Content
Guest: Francesco Pisano https://www.graduateinstitute.ch/discover-institute/francesco-pisano
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded and produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Friday Jul 25, 2025
Friday Jul 25, 2025
In this insightful episode, we are honored to host Mr. Martin Chungong, the Secretary General of the Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) and a leading voice in global parliamentary diplomacy. With over forty years of experience, Mr. Chungong shares his perspectives on the role of parliaments in addressing global challenges, fostering international cooperation, and promoting peace.
We delve into the significance of the upcoming Sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament in a world in turmoil, exploring its role in bringing top legislators together to tackle pressing issues such as climate change, conflict resolution, and health emergencies. Mr. Chungong also sheds light on the IPU's efforts to advance gender equality, youth participation, and interfaith dialogue, emphasizing the organization's commitment to an inclusive, collaborative approach.
Join us as we explore how the IPU is redefining parliamentary diplomacy, integrating scientific research, and setting the stage for effective solutions to modern global dilemmas. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in how parliaments can be a pivotal force in shaping a more democratic and harmonious world.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
The IPU is the global organization of national parliaments: https://www.ipu.org/
Parline: global data on National Parliaments: https://data.ipu.org/
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/D_IRzeA-a08
Content
Guest: Martin Chungong, Secretary General, IPU
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Friday Jul 18, 2025
Exploring Well-Beingology: A Journey into the Science of Happiness
Friday Jul 18, 2025
Friday Jul 18, 2025
Welcome to the latest episode of The Next Page, where we explore the fascinating domain of "well-beingology" with Roberto De Vogli, Associate Professor at the University of Padua and Visiting Professor at the University of London. Roberto de Vogli delves into the social determinants of health to uncover how a transdisciplinary approach can enhance our understanding of well-being.
Throughout the episode, we explore how well-being extends beyond health, addressing the complex interplay of factors including socioeconomic conditions, political contexts, and environmental influences. Discover how these elements are biologically embedded in our lives, impacting not only our present but also the future.
De Vogli also illuminates the evolving challenges posed by climate change, highlighting the necessity for a cooperative, global approach to safeguard future generations. Gain insights into the concept of a well-being economy and the promise it holds for sustainable development.
Join us for this enlightening conversation as we seek to redefine the pursuit of happiness in a world facing unprecedented challenges and explore the potential pathways towards a positive social transformation.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
De Vogli, R. (2013). Progress or Collapse: The Crises of Market Greed. Routledge.
De Vogli, R. (2024). Managing and Preventing Pandemics: Lessons From COVID-19 (1st ed.). Routledge.
De Vogli, R., (2025) Selective Empathy: The West Through the Gaze of Gaza. Studies in Critical Social Sciences, Volume: 348. Brill. Not yet published.
Fioramonti, L., Coscieme, L., Costanza, R., Kubiszewski, I., Trebeck, K., Wallis, S., ... & De Vogli, R. (2022). Wellbeing economy: an effective paradigm to mainstream post-growth policies?. Ecological Economics, 192, 107261.
Simms, A. (2013). Cancel the apocalypse: The new path to prosperity. Hachette UK.
Newell, P., & Simms, A. (2020). How Did We Do That? Histories and Political Economies of Rapid and Just Transitions. New Political Economy, 26(6), 907–922.
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/
Content
Guest: Roberto De Vogli
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded online with apologies for the sound quality
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Friday Jul 04, 2025
Friday Jul 04, 2025
In this enlightening episode of "The Next Page," we are joined by Nilufer Oral, member of the International Law Commission and expert in climate law and ocean governance. We take a deep dive into the intricate relationship between climate change, the oceans, and international law. Niloufar shares her journey from focusing on navigation and marine protection to her involvement in pivotal climate change negotiations, including the Paris Agreement.
Listeners will gain insights into the complexities of integrating climate change considerations with the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and learn about the critical new report of the International Law Commission’s study group on sea level rise. The conversation also explores the economic and humanitarian implications of ocean acidification and the migration challenges posed by rising sea levels, urging a coordinated international response.
Engaging and thought-provoking, this episode offers a comprehensive look at how legal frameworks are evolving to address the pressing challenges climate change poses to our oceans and global society.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
ILC Reports
https://legal.un.org/ilc/guide/8_9.shtml#ilcrep
UNCLOS
https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/convention_overview_convention.htm
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/CWDmjqi9gfU
Content
Guest: Nilufer Oral
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
International Day of Women in Diplomacy
Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
Join us for the special episode in partnership with UN Women to commemorate the International Day of Women in Diplomacy. This conversation on gender equality in diplomacy features insights from the Director of UN Women in Geneva, Sofia Calltorp, and Dr. Sarah Chehab, a Senior Research Fellow at the Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy, in Abu Dhabi.
Dr. Chehab shares the journey of founding the Women in Diplomacy Research Program and provides the stark statistics on gender representation from the Women in Diplomacy Index. With compelling data, Dr. Chehab discusses the pressing need to bridge the gap in senior diplomatic roles and sparks discussion on the importance of feminist foreign policy.
Also joining the conversation, Sofia Calltorp, Director of UN Women in Geneva, shares her extensive experience in diplomacy and humanitarian affairs. She offers insights into UN Women's global efforts and highlights key developments in gender-responsive foreign policies.
This episode navigates through the challenges and triumphs of women's representation in diplomacy, emphasizing the crucial role of gender equality in achieving sustainable and inclusive peace and governance on a global scale. Tune in for an engaging dialogue on the future of diplomacy and the critical steps needed to ensure equal representation for all.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
The UN Secretary General's report on the 30-year review and appraisal of the Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action - https://docs.un.org/E/CN.6/2025/3
CSW 69 Political Declaration- https://docs.un.org/E/CN.6/2025/L.1
Women in Politics: 2025- https://www.unwomen.org/en/digital-library/publications/2025/03/women-in-politics-map-2025
Women in Diplomacy research programme, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy:
https://www.agda.ac.ae/research/publications-multimedia-events/women-in-diplomacy
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/Nn7Z6YolbXc
Content
Guests:
Dr. Sara Chehab, Senior Researcher, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy, United Arab Emirates
Ms. Sofia Calltorp, Director, UN Women Geneva
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Friday Jun 20, 2025
Anda Filip: the parliamentary dimension of global governance
Friday Jun 20, 2025
Friday Jun 20, 2025
In this episode, we explore the world of parliamentary diplomacy with our special guest, Ambassador Anda Filip, Director for Member Parliaments and External Relations at the Interparliamentary Union (IPU). Ambassador Filip, an experienced diplomat, shares insights about her career journey and the pivotal role IPU plays in fostering global cooperation through its work which helps bridge international and national levels, and the democracy gap in international affairs.
We explore the importance of the upcoming Sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament and how it serves as a platform for addressing pressing global issues by providing a unique forum for high-level engagement and dialogue among parliamentary leaders from around the world.
As we celebrate International Day of Women in Diplomacy in June, Ambassador Filip also highlights the critical challenges and advancements in gender equality within parliaments, celebrating success stories from around the world and underscoring the barriers women continue to face in politics.
Join us as Ambassador Filip offers valuable perspectives on the evolution of IPU's relationship with the United Nations, the power of parliamentary diplomacy in conflict resolution, and the inspiring initiatives that are paving the way for inclusive governance globally.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
IPU: https://www.ipu.org/
Sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament, 29-31 July 2025 https://www.ipu.org/event/sixth-world-conference-speakers-parliament
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/
Content
Guest: Ambassador Anda Filip
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Friday Jun 13, 2025
Friday Jun 13, 2025
Join us as we celebrate International Archives Week on the theme of Archives for Everyone, with our latest news from the Library & Archives. In this compelling discussion, Danielle Hughes, an archivist and the chief of the Records Management Unit at UN Geneva, speaks about the significance of the archives related to the International Bill of Human Rights being inscribed into the UNESCO Memory of the World Heritage register.
Discover how these archives related to the drafting of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, were preserved and recognized for their global importance, including the original drafts and influential changes inspired by key figures such as Eleanor Roosevelt and Hansa Mehta.
The episode also sheds light on the role played by Geneva in hosting these pivotal documents and addresses the broader context of preserving institutional memory for future generations, emphasizing the imperative of safeguarding both historical and contemporary archival collections.Resources and for more information: Ask an Archivist!: Ask us - Ask us
UN Archives Geneva online catalogue: www.archives.ungeneva.org
UNARMS online catalogue in New York: www.search.archives.un.org
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/15ThYV_-g_A
Content
Guest: Danielle Hughes, Archivist, UN Geneva
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded and produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

The #NextPagePod
Are you curious about the power of international cooperation? And how it affects our future? Then tune in to the #NextPagePod, the podcast designed to advance the conversation on multilateralism!
Each episode delves into global issues through a multilateral lens, exploring how collaboration across disciplines can facilitate reaching common goals.
Produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva
Editorial Team:
Editor & Coordinator - Amy Smith
Hosts: Francesco Pisano, Natalie Alexander, Amy Smith, Blandine Blukacz-Louisfert, Hermine Diebolt.
Podcast logo and designs - Natalie Alexander, Amy Smith.





